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Talking with Evan Christopher (part one)

by Pamela Espeland (Friday, 19 March 2010)

Think "clarinet" and "New Orleans" and a certain sound may come to mind: sweet, quavery, old-timey Dixieland.  I once thought of the clarinet as an instrument that had seen its day in jazz, making rare appearances for color and nostalgia.  And then I heard Evan Christopher play.

During my first encounter with the Creole-style clarinetist, an impromptu set at the Dakota Jazz Club (www.dakotacooks.com) in Minneapolis in 2008, he stole the show from Irvin Mayfield, who usually keeps a pretty firm grasp on such things.  I heard Christopher again at Chickie Wah Wah in New Orleans in March ’09, where he has a regular gig on Monday nights, and back at the Dakota in October, where he played for more than two hours to a packed house with no break.  Each time I came away knowing I had heard something old and something new.

Born in Long Beach, CA Christopher began playing clarinet at age 11.  He moved to New Orleans in 1994 and left twice, the first time in ’96 to join the Jim Cullum Jazz Band in San Antonio, where he remained for two and a half years, and again in ’05 after Hurricane Katrina, when his Broadmoor neighborhood flooded and he became one of the city’s more than 4,000 displaced musicians.

At the invitation of the French government, Christopher relocated to Paris, where he deepened his commitment to the music of New Orleans, solidified his claim to the title "Ambassador of the Clarinet," and formed two groups: The Jazz Traditions Project and Django a la Creole.  He returned to New Orleans in December ’07.

Christopher is charismatic on stage, playing with passion and joy, connecting with the audience, occasionally singing, sometimes dancing as he plays.  Rooted in history and scholarship, his music is modern and fresh, sincere and full of emotion, respectful of the elders but not at all dusty or quaint.  Contemporary trad?  Or simply the living, breathing, right-now sound of New Orleans?

We spoke in late ’09, when Christopher was in Minneapolis with pianist Henry Butler, and also to meet with the Minnesota Orchestra, which has commissioned him to write a new piece for orchestra that will have its world premiere on July 23, 2010.

The name of your website is "Clarinet Road" and you have two recordings called "Clarinet Road."  What is the Clarinet Road?

When I first met Tony Scott, the great bebop clarinet player, he was living in Italy.  I was on tour and he autographed a poster-size picture he used to carry copies of around, of himself backstage at Carnegie Hall in 1953 or 1954 with Billie Holiday and Charlie Parker.  He signed it "Good luck on Clarinet Road, lots of curves."  I lost that poster in the storm but I kept the Clarinet Road thing. 

[Editor's note: in yet another of their localisms New Orleanians rarely refer to their August 2005 calamity as "Hurricane Katrina" or "Katrina", but simply as "the storm."]

How did your music change when you moved to Paris after Katrina?

When I went to Paris, I was very aggresively trying to move forward, trying not to cry over spilled milk.  Initially, I thought there was no way I was ever going to go back to New Orleans, I was so pissed off about it.  I envisioned getting a project started in Paris, and I envisioned staying there.  To shape that project, I had to come up with a slightly new aesthetic, because I had to find a way to represent New Orleans music outside of New Orleans, with musicians who weren’t living there or from there.

You were working with French musicians?

On the Live at the Meridien recording, the drummer is French.  The other two musicians live in France but they’re actually Australian.  The bass player, Sebastien Girardot, has played traditional jazz with real New Orleans-style revival bands since he was 19.  [Guitarist] David Blenkhorn came up with Australian musicians in the Australian traditional jazz scene.  He plays the shit out of blues.  He approaches jazz in almost a more American way than a lot of American musicians do.

What does that mean?

He likes to swing and play blues.

Do you find there’s a difference between working with American musicians and those who aren’t American?

I can’t make a generalization like that. But I will say that I enjoy the spirit of these guys. It seems more American to me than a lot of the cats I work with here.

Talk about your Jazz Traditions Project, the group with whom you recorded Live at the Meridien.

It’s a tongue-in-cheek thing. A lot of avant-garde/contemporary groups use the word "project" and it’s sort of annoying. The Jazz Traditions Project is a way of saying "We’re not going to apologize for having a foot in the door or New Orleans music."

I met Sebastien when he was about 19 years old, at a festival in Norway.  He was playing with an Australian band, good revival-style New Orleans jazz. The drummer, Guillaume [Nouaux], I met a couple years later in Paris. David Blenkhorn I met in Ascona, Switzerland. He was there at a festival with a great Australian jazz musician named Tom Baker, who embodies what I think is more the American spirit/aesthetic of jazz better than a lot of American musicians.

You taught for a time.

I was adjunct faculty at the University of New Orleans and I’m done with that.  I had the distinction for three semesters of having the only performing ensemble at the University level dealing with New Orleans music.

That is so bizarre!

Everybody says that, and I want people to have that reaction.  But maybe it’s not so bizarre.  If you think about what has become the norm for modern jazz pedagogy, New Orleans strategies and schema for music-making or learning music don’t really fit in.  I found ways to make them fit in, but they don’t generally.  It’s not people’s experience who teach on that level.  It’s not something, except in New Orleans, that students can engage in directly when they walk out their door.  The fact that they choose not to is the part that I want to seem strange.

When you are bringing the music forward, making the music contemporary, how are you doing that?  What’s going through your mind as you’re preparing and performing?

During my preparation with the band, I have some rules in my head, to intentionally avoid repertory. The idea behind Django a la Creole was if we do these Django tunes, we have to find a new way to do them. We have to find elements in them that say that they want to be something else. We have to find rhythmic elements, harmonic things, that make them actually want to not be the same thing that they’ve been for years and years, that everybody else is doing.

With the Jazz Traditions Project, it’s the same thing. You have to take vehicles that lend themselves to using the vocabulary that’s rooted in tradition. A song like John Coltrane’s "After the Rain" is a beautiful waltz. You imagine, well, what if Elvin Jones is playing in a brass band, what if [clarinetist] George Lewis is playing the melody? And it’s not to make anachronisms. It’s like a postmodern strategy, where you’re blurring the lines between genre, where you’re blurring the lines between tradition. At the same time, it still has to be musical, to have what I would call narrative.

Ornette is one of the pioneers of modern jazz. To be anchored firmly in the earliest New Orleans traditions and yet find a way to make an homage to one of the pioneers of the avant-garde was more symbolic to me than anything.

Is it difficult?

It’s hard finding things. I’ve been looking for other Ornette tunes, and I’ve hung out with him. He’s a lovely cat. He appreciates things that sound good.  His whole thing has always been about being free of all those trappings — what’s traditional, what’s modern, freedom from tonality, even more abstractly, freedom from what he calls our "classness," or even gender. He’d rather be free of all of that.

What were you doing before you started playing in the New Orleans style?

When I was in college, I was playing a lot of saxophone.  When I first started university, I was playing a lot more saxophone.  I thought I was being groomed to be a New York musician, someone who was going to wait in line to audition to be one of Art Blakey’s last alto players.

Doesn’t everybody have that Art Blakey dream?

I don’t know if it was specifically Art Blakey.  I was kind of making a joke.  Those kinds of stories resonate with one’s imagination when you’re out there in California.  A couple of my mentors were modern musicians.  I think that’s what I envisioned myself being.  I still know a lot of that music, even though I never get to play it.

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